PreAccident Investigation Podcast

This is Marc Yeston.  He is the Chief Ranger at the Black Canyon of the Gunnison National Park.  Marc Yeston is a long-time student of Human Performance and High Reliability, but from a much different approach, Marc gets the chance to practice these skills and approaches almost every day.  Marc talks about his experience in leading teams doing heli-rescues, high-angle rescues, and tons more interesting - high-risk/high-value operations.  Perhaps what is most important about this episode is Marc's ability to talk about the responsibility in leading this type of worker.  Marc talks directly about what he has learned (and who he has learned from) about field leadership and high functioning - high risk work.  You are going to love this podcast.  Learn much!

How do you know what you don't know?  How do you know what you know?  How do you know you know what you know?  How do I know I know until I know?  How do you know?

Let's check in with Bob Edwards for the second part of his podcast visit. This episode is exclusively about Learning Teams.  Bob has been a part of hundreds of operational learning activities for Human and Organizational Performance all over the world.  I think it would be safe to say no one knows more about HOP learning - Bob is a master.  If you are interested in learning and improvement...This podcast is for you.

This safety moment talks about just how normal "drift" is in the way workers do their work.  Everybody drifts...everybody.  So, if drift is normal what do we do with drift?  Listen and think about this questions. Remember...drift is normal.  You can't remove it, so we MUST understand it.

Randy Cadieux is a Aviation guy....and that is just where Randy starts his career in safety, reliability and performance.  Randy comes from the HRO side of the tracks and his expertise makes him quite a force...but you can talk to him about this stuff, because Randy's experience is from the world of Aviation safety and practice - more practice - less theory. Enjoy this episode.  It is great.

Here's a question:  "How did we get to a place where we started thinking that we could reward workers for not getting hurt?"  There are many companies that have long-running safety incentive programs, often at great expense and effort of the organization.  How did this become an idea that we thought would make a difference? If we believe we can reward workers for not getting hurt, then we must believe that getting hurt is a monetary choice made be workers with full knowledge of the outcome. That is crazy talk - and yet very good and very smart companies have these programs. Who is right?  See what you think.  

This episode is fun.  Bob Edwards was the lead field Human Performance expert for GE - specifically GE Appliances.  He talks about the new view from a very important perspective - a safety guy who has actually done it (and is still doing it even today).  Bob brings real experience with these programs to the table and has much to say.  Bob was in the area, I was home for a couple days, and we ate burritos and chatted about Safety.  This is part one of two episodes - part one is an introduction to where, how, and why Bob is so good at this work.  Enjoy - no burritos where harmed in this podcast.

The Lost Podcast...was found!  This is Steve de Albuquerque, Global Manager of Safety and Health at ConocoPhillips.  This podcast was lost to time and I had given up on ever getting to put this out into the world...until yesterday when Steve called and said we could publish it. Her you go.  I think you will enjoy it.

What else is there to say?  You will be amazed at the difference when you simply change one word in your safety learning activities.  Changing from the word "Why" to the word "How" makes a huge difference in the way you think about an event, and more importantly the way workers talk about an event.  Try it you will like it!

Why don't you spend 45 minutes or so taking part in a conversation with Sidney Dekker as he wonders through his background and interests in understanding Safety Differently.  He stops and ponders the idea of "Just Cultures" in a way that I think you will find very interesting and for some of us, a bit challenging.  Sidney talks openly and honestly about the New View of safety, and his conversation is for people just like us: The folks who are doing this work.  You can tell that we are all on this journey together. I know you will find this podcast interesting and important.  I also know that you will learn some new little ideas that will help you on your journey as well.  Mostly, it is a chance to get to know Sidney Dekker a bit more.  Enjoy this podcast...there will be more.