PreAccident Investigation Podcast

PAPod 530 - Revisiting Safety on the Edge: Past Insights and Future Conversations

Join us on a captivating journey through the realms of safety innovation and discussion as Todd Conklin invites Corrie Pitzer back to the Pre-Accident Investigation Podcast. Corrie, a pivotal thinker in the safety domain, shares the story behind the resurgence of "Safety on the Edge," an international series of conferences promoting new and collaborative safety strategies.
The episode kicks off with a recount of a spontaneous, thought-provoking text exchange between Todd and Corey during a Billy Strings concert, highlighting the importance of embracing diverse viewpoints in safety discourse. The dialogue inspires the revitalization of the "Safety on the Edge" meetings, aiming to unite thought leaders and professionals globally to push the boundaries of traditional safety practices.
Todd and Corrie reminisce about the early days of the movement while unveiling plans for an upcoming gathering in Berkeley. The event promises engaging discussions led by industry pioneers, conceptual innovators, and safety practitioners who will delve into topics ranging from mental well-being to technological advancements in safety.
Get ready to immerse yourself in this exciting preview of the future of safety, exploring how tenets from years past are being adapted into practical applications today, and the enduring commitment to preventing workplace incidents through collective learning and dialogue.

Safety Moment - Stupid Systems Create Stupid Outcomes

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PAPod 529 - Embracing the Imperfect Journey: A New Year's Reflection

In this episode of the Pre-Accident Investigation Safety Podcast, Todd Conklin reflects on the start of 2025 and the podcast's 11th year. He shares insights from a recent vacation and discusses the evolving priorities that come with age. Todd emphasizes the importance of valuing incremental improvement over the elusive goal of perfection, invoking a memorable Voltaire quote to set the tone for the new year.The episode delves into the complexities of redefining success in organizational safety, challenging the widely-held notion of 'target zero.' As Todd guides listeners through this thought-provoking conversation, he highlights the significance of monitoring progress and appreciating the 'good' that occurs in everyday operations. Join the discussion on how to navigate the path toward improvement in an imperfect world, setting the stage for a meaningful and balanced year ahead.

Safety Moment - The Unseen Impact: Embracing the Unmeasurable in Safety

In this episode, Todd Conklin delves into the unique challenges faced by those in the safety profession, where success often lies in preventing measurable incidents from occurring. Reflecting on his experiences in Colombia, he emphasizes the moral duty and imperative of ensuring workers have the environment and support they need to succeed amidst complexity and change.Conklin argues that although the results of effective safety measures may be "nothing happened," this absence of incidents is indeed a powerful indicator of success. He advocates for a shift from focusing on statistical achievements to recognizing and valuing the quieter, immeasurable successes that occur when standard operations proceed safely and smoothly.This episode encourages listeners to appreciate the significance of their roles in maintaining safety and to educate leaders about the importance of outcomes that are not easily quantified, urging the community to take pride in the unseen impacts of their work. Music.

PAPod 528 - Embracing Uncertainty: Navigating Change in Today's World

Join Todd Conklin in a thought-provoking discussion on the unexpected dynamics of podcasting and the complexities of gauging audience interest. Through candid reflections, Todd explores how unpredictability drives innovation, emphasizing the importance of continuous learning and adaptation in uncertain times. Discover the challenges of initiating change in high-risk environments and the role of safety as a presence, rather than an absence, of failures.Dive into Todd's new book, "New Ideas for Old Problems: A Human Performance Approach to Sustainable Change," which offers fresh perspectives on safety and organizational improvement. Learn about the incremental nature of change and the critical shift from traditional safety metrics to a broader understanding of safety as an organizational capacity. The episode invites listeners to rethink conventional approaches and consider monitoring progress through new lenses.Explore how new ideas can be seamlessly integrated into existing systems and the ongoing journey towards more resilient and reliable organizations. Todd shares personal insights and the inspiration behind his latest work, encouraging listeners to engage with innovative concepts and apply them in diverse contexts. This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in evolving safety standards and fostering sustainable change within their organizations.

PAPod 205 - Redux: Merry Christmas

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PAPod 527 - Navigating Safety in High-Risk Maritime Operations

Join host Todd Conklin in this engaging episode of the Pre-Accident Investigation Podcast as he dives into a captivating conversation with Bionda van Roosendaal Stelling, the General Manager of Health, Safety, and Environment at HEEREMA. Recorded during an unexpected taxi ride, this episode takes us on a journey through the fascinating world of high-risk maritime operations.
Explore the challenges and innovations in safety within the maritime industry, emphasizing a shift from viewing workers as problems to seeing them as integral solutions. Bionda shares insights into how European maritime companies like HIRMA are embracing new perspectives on safety and resilience, highlighting the importance of learning from normal operations and integrating technology as a tool rather than a crutch.
This episode also reflects on the broader changes in safety discussions over the years, the continuous evolution in industry practices, and the vital role of accountability in managing project risks. Whether you're in the maritime industry or interested in modern safety approaches, this episode offers valuable lessons on navigating complex environments while keeping the human element at the forefront.

PAPod 526 - The Power of Conversations in the Workplace

In this episode, join Todd Conklin for a casual yet insightful chat on the importance of understanding and interpreting data in both personal and organizational contexts. Using a humorous anecdote about a data-collecting ring, Todd delves into how data can provide insights into our happiness and health, drawing parallels to the abundance of data collected in workplace safety and operations.Moreover, Todd discusses the significance of open-ended conversations with employees to gauge the true health of an organization. He emphasizes the importance of building quick relationships and understanding the changing needs of the workforce in a rapidly evolving work environment.Todd also challenges listeners to think about the nature of feedback and data collection, promoting genuine conversations as a vital tool for organizational success and personal growth. Tune in for a reflective journey on how we can all benefit from asking the right questions and being open to the answers, however surprising they may be.

Safety Moment - Redux: Unseen Triumphs in Safety: The Moral Imperative

Join Todd Conklin in this insightful episode of Pre-Accident Investigation, where he reflects on the moral duty and challenges faced in the safety industry. Discover the importance of allowing workers the ability to succeed in complex environments, even when achievements can't be measured.

PAPod 525 - Edgar Schein Part Two -

Part Two of a continuing conversation from almost 10 years ago. 
In this captivating episode of the Pre-Accident Podcast, host Todd Conklin welcomes the legendary Edgar Schein and his son Peter for a deep dive into the world of organizational culture and safety. This is part one of a two-part series that promises to challenge your thinking and spark new insights.
Listeners are treated to an enlightening conversation with Edgar Schein, a revered figure in the field of organizational development, as he shares his distilled wisdom gathered over decades of academic and consulting work. Schein emphasizes the critical importance of openness and trust in driving both safety and effectiveness within organizations, drawing from his extensive experiences with major corporations and industries.
The episode explores the concept of relationship building within management, challenging traditional notions of role-based relationships and advocating for a more personal and trust-based approach. The discussion touches on the nuances of creating psychological safety, the impact of reward systems, and the often overlooked role of middle management in fostering a culture of safety and effectiveness.
Join Todd Conklin and his distinguished guests for an engaging conversation that will leave you eagerly anticipating the next installment. Tune in to discover how openness and trust can transform your organization and why these elements are the bedrock of true effectiveness.